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Aza Ebanu
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.01.21 17:52:00 -
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Roime wrote:How is it "more hardcore" than flying out solo and finding a fight?
Why is this mechanic needed?
Because what you speak of is more rare than yeti. |
Aza Ebanu
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2013.01.21 18:05:00 -
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Nexus Day wrote:Bane Necran wrote:Throughout the history of this game, PvP has mostly revolved around attacking people who are unprepared for PvP,,, You should always be prepared for PvP. In response to others, arena combat used to be a reality. And it is odd that a canon that includes a slave/master dichotomy does not have some form of arena combat, especially in the Amarr region. I even think Gladiators are mentioned in a couple missions. I don't care either way, I just think some of the arguments against it are pretty weak.
Can't your ship can't be prepared for PVE/ Industry and PVP. Must be those darn broken game mechanics again. |
Aza Ebanu
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2013.01.21 18:51:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Bane Necran wrote:I doubt people are going to start having duels instead of wars. Or duels instead of gatecamps.  I'm not talking about behaviour GÇö I'm talking about mechanics. All mechanics for consensual combat are encapsulated within the mechanics of non-consensual combat, and no consensual combat can ever be allowed to exist outside the real of non-consensual engagements. Thus, consensual mechanics are either unnecessary or game-breaking. Either way, there's no point in or need to add them.
You must be blind or something. A duel is consensual PVP without a sec hit where you and another player can duel without the interruption of another player. Bad attitudes are game breaking and there is no point or need for that either. |
Aza Ebanu
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2013.01.21 19:01:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Aza Ebanu wrote:Tippia wrote:Bane Necran wrote:I doubt people are going to start having duels instead of wars. Or duels instead of gatecamps. I'm not talking about behaviour GÇö I'm talking about mechanics. All mechanics for consensual combat are encapsulated within the mechanics of non-consensual combat, and no consensual combat can ever be allowed to exist outside the real of non-consensual engagements. Thus, consensual mechanics are either unnecessary or game-breaking. Either way, there's no point in or need to add them. You must be blind or something. A duel is consensual PVP without a sec hit where you and another player can duel without the interruption of another player. Bad attitudes are game breaking and there is no point or need for that either. Why are you willingly ignoring the whole point of the argument, namely that nowhere in EvE, at no time ever, people were/are/should be shielded from the others ? (edit: in space, of course)
There are all kinds of shields from others, it depends on which side of the shield you are on to see it though. The Op was asking about adding a feature that allows him to engage in a duel. Duels can exist in EVE, and with the attitudes of the player base, they should. |
Aza Ebanu
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2013.01.21 21:49:00 -
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well if you want to suicide a well tanked ship I guess. But you need outside protection otherwise there wouldn't be much of a duel from griefer ganking. To fix make a deadspace warp point that the duelist warp to and disable fleets. |
Aza Ebanu
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2013.01.21 23:38:00 -
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Ila Gant wrote:There is no non-consensual PvP in EvE. Undocking is consent.
Sure there is. There is "Mutual" wars, both sides consent to unrestricted combat-PVP. That marketing mubojumbo sounds great at fanfest though, but if it were true there wouldn't be a high sec and there wouldn't be penalties. |
Aza Ebanu
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.01.21 23:59:00 -
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Ila Gant wrote:Aza Ebanu wrote:Ila Gant wrote:There is no non-consensual PvP in EvE. Undocking is consent. Sure there is. There is "Mutual" wars, both sides consent to unrestricted combat-PVP. That marketing mubojumbo sounds great at fanfest though, but if it were true there wouldn't be a high sec and there wouldn't be penalties. Eve is about consequences. If you get into a brawl in a bar downtown, you probably get picked up by the police and sent to jail. Firing without permission from Concord has roughly the same consequences. You expose yourself to the possibility of someone throwing that illegal punch when you undock. Would be interesting if the police got to blow up your car for getting into a fight, though.
There you go again trying to relate EVE to RL. again. Whats wrong with having consensual-PVP? |
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